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Nancy Tang

glass@GlassOrchids.com www.GlassOrchids.com


Jul 2, 05 - 5:02 PM
PMC Questions

This thread is for posting your questions about PMC or telling us about your projects.
Nancy Tang

www.GlassOrchids.com


Aug 11th, 2005 - 10:05 AM
New Speedcone Firing System

We've just received our SpeedCone firing system but have yet to test it. It's a weird little contraption that sits on top of a small propane tank. The info says you can fire all the types of PMC in it and maybe even fire small glass cabs in place but I've got to test that to believe it! I'll keep you posted. We'll be demonstrating that at our Level I Cert class on August 19th.

N
Nancy Tang

www.GlassOrchids.com


Sep 7th, 2005 - 2:18 PM
Tumbler Tip

Sometimes while tumbling some PMC pieces you get some of the steel shot stuck in little places such as in the channel for the chain. How can you get these out when they appear to be good n' stuck?

Empty your tumbler and place the offending piece in it. Turn it on. By tumbling the piece alone the shot will get dislodged thus solving yo' problem.....

Nan
Nancy Tang

www.GlassOrchids.com


Sep 7th, 2005 - 2:21 PM
Tumbler Contamination

In a class a few weeks ago our solution in the tumbler got contaminated by the liver of sulfer we were using to patina our pieces. All subsequent pieces that were tumbled turned a lovely shade of gold. Nice but not what we were after. I asked my fellow Senior Instructors about this and here's the solution to problem:

Hope you drink Coke or Pepsi..... wash out your tumbler and shot....take a glass of flat cola (diet works too) and put it into the tumbler with the shot. Tumble this for about 20 minutes. Wash out the tumbler and shot again and all should be well.....

If you liked the color you were getting in the tumbler SAVE THE SOLUTION to use again.....

Hope that helps,
Nan
Carol Augustine

www.rubylane.com/shops/allthingsbeautiful


Jan 13th, 2006 - 12:31 AM
Re: PMC Questions

Hi Nancy, Can you recommend a kiln for both PMC work and fusing glass? Thanks, Carol
Nancy Tang

www.GlassOrchids.com


Jan 13th, 2006 - 9:18 AM
Re: PMC Questions

I recommend the Sierra/Evenheat kilns - the 360 is a good sized model. These come with a computer on board and run on household current. You can fire ceramics, enamel, PMC and glass in these. You can slump small pieces, do kiln casting etc.. as well. It will take you some time to outgrow this little workhorse . We sell them on our kilns page and can walk you thru using it when it arrives. Most of our HOW TO articles are based on using this kiln.

Hope that helps,
Nan
Barbara Bergen



Oct 21st, 2006 - 9:22 AM
Re: Re: PMC Questions

I notice that you recommend the Sierra 360 for home use. As there are 2 of us who will be using the kiln would the Sierra 450 be better for us because of the shelving/capacity capability? What about support if something goes wrong with a kiln? What are the options? (talking circuit boards here from an ex-geek). Thanks for the help. Want to buy asap and need a little direction. Doing PMC and glass fusion.
Janet

www.picturetrail.com/earart


Sep 10th, 2006 - 1:31 PM
Re: PMC Questions

Hi Nan - that solution you gave for the liver of sulphur -- I used Black Max on a small section of a ring and rubbed off the excess. When I tumbled the ring it looked just fine, but a few days later I noticed black spots on the ring. I tumbled it again using new shot and a cleaned tumbler, but the problem persisted. Can you think of a solution. Thanks heaps!
Nancy Tang

www.UGotGlass.com


Sep 11th, 2006 - 9:54 AM
Re: PMC Questions

Janet:

do the spots clean off and then re-appear or are they always there no matter what?

Nan
Nancy Tang

www.GlassOrchids.com


Oct 27th, 2006 - 9:24 AM
Re: PMC Questions

Regarding a choice between the Sierra 360 or 450.... I have both and recommend the 360 because you really don't get a lot of use out of the extra height unless you're doing something like a small vase. I don't stack more than 2 shelves for glass and I can do that in the 360. If you're stacking PMC shelves you could probably get an extra one in but the 360 holds a good amount .... so for the price diff I'd just go with the 360.... Hope that helps, Nan
Nicole



Feb 4th, 2007 - 4:18 AM
Re: PMC Questions

I just started looking into PMC, bought a HotPot. I know it only fires PMC3, right? Can I fill an item, like a bead, with cork clay and still fire it in the
HotPot?
Also, about bezels. Can I use fine silver bezel wire to make a bezel with the PMC3? I read some tutorial that suggests using paste to seal the edges and then pressing the bezel wire into the clay then fire.
What about shrinkage?
Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated.
Nancy Tang

www.UGotGlass.com


Feb 5th, 2007 - 10:15 AM
Re: PMC Questions

Hi Nicole:

Yes, the hotpot is for PMC3. I see no reason why you can't burn out cork clay using the hotpot but you should put the bead in a little bit of soft fiber paper to support it. Soft fiber paper is what you get once you've fired the fiber paper. Normally you'd use a small dish with vermiculite but I'm not sure that would work with the HotPot.... you could experiment. I can send you some soft fiber paper if you don't have any... you can just pay the shipping.... I wouldn't charge you for it. Also, be aware that you should have ventilation because the cork clay will cause a bit of smoke when it burns up. I have not done this with a hotpot but I see no reason it won't work.

Note: I no longer carry the hotpots because I found they cracked during shipping or upon early usage. I loved the idea but the execution of the product left a bit to be desired. As soon as you can I would invest in a small kiln... even the RapidFire VI (around $350ish) would work well for you. That was my first kiln and I loved it....no computer on board but then there isn't one with the Hotpot either

Hope this helps,
Nan
Nicole



Feb 5th, 2007 - 3:26 PM
Re: PMC Questions

Thanks Nancy for your quick response! I'd appreciate some fiber paper. Since I'm paying the shipping and handling I'd like to order somethings from the site,
like sanding sticks and badger balm. How should we do this? Should I place my order and then in a side note remind you of this email?
Let me know and thanks,
Nicole
Nancy Tang

www.UGotGlass.com


Feb 5th, 2007 - 3:41 PM
Re: PMC Questions

yes just order from the site and put a little note in the notes field... they'll ask me what it mean ....

Nan
nicole



Feb 5th, 2007 - 10:30 PM
Re: PMC Questions

thanks so much, glad I stumbled upon your site!
Nicole
Nicole



Feb 16th, 2007 - 12:31 PM
Re: PMC Questions

Just want to say thanks Nancy! I received the fiber paper and it worked perfectly, thanks for answering my questions and in such a timely manner too! I'm so glad i found this resource.
Nicole
Nancy Tang

www.UGotGlass.com


Feb 27th, 2007 - 9:15 AM
Re: PMC Questions

Anytime.... glad it worked for you...

Nan
Helen



Jul 24th, 2007 - 1:25 PM
Re: PMC Questions

I just fired some PMC3 and the pieces seem like they are not done all the way and break easily. Do I need to increase the temperature? I have been firing with the dichroic glass so I didn't want to go past 1100 F.

Also can I take these pieces and fire them again? The pieces that broke were just the PMC and my pieces with the glass came out okay. (Smaller pieces that I did with the syringe broke- but the rest seem fine.)

Thanks,

Helen
Nancy Tang

www.UGotGlass.com


Jul 24th, 2007 - 1:28 PM
Re: PMC Questions

Can you tell me which PMC product you used? PMC3, + or Standard? That will help. If the pieces are brittle you should fire them again and hold for the longest time listed. I generally don't fire the glass pieces at the same time as the others.

Nan
Donna

kaleidocherry.com


Aug 27th, 2008 - 7:24 PM
Re: PMC Questions

Most of my work is done in glass but I have been playing with the syringe PMC by squirting out long squiggly or loopy pieces and firing them. They look really neat but in some places even tumbling with shot will not get rid of that cloudy white finish (in the little loops). I also tried using a tiny brass brush attached to my Dremel, but this only scratched the silver and didn't get rid of that white cloudiness. What else can I try to get into those little loops and polish up the silver?

Thanks,

Donna


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